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Deleted I have made 0 posts Right now I'm Offline I joined January 1970	So the TPPA might be a done deal.... Jan 21, 2016 17:35:33 GMT -6 Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2016 17:35:33 GMT -6 Jan 20, 2016 0:01:45 GMT -6 Ravensword said: While not having anything to do w/ China or the TPP, Clinton signed NAFTA into law—a similarly shitty trade deal. My heart bleeds for outsourced manufacturing and less consumer choice!!
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ObserverStatus Banned for Spam Pathlessness, everywhere you look. Where is this all supposed to lead? I have made 3,181 posts Right now I'm Offline I joined August 2015 I've received 3,229 likes My gender is Male BSN Posts 18994	So the TPPA might be a done deal.... Jan 22, 2016 16:28:59 GMT -6 Ravensword likes this Post by ObserverStatus on Jan 22, 2016 16:28:59 GMT -6 So, how long after TPP passes is the government going to start blowing VPN users up with predator drones?
Indeed, cannibalism of the dead is a cherished custom in Scotland. When a Scottish boy's coming of age is celebrated (a ceremony known as the Scot Mitzvah) he is forced to consume his own great-grandfather, bones and all, in just 24 hours, or else the local Shaman will hit him on the head with a magical stick that stops him from ever becoming an adult. Reply Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top

Deleted I have made 0 posts Right now I'm Offline I joined January 1970	So the TPPA might be a done deal.... Jan 22, 2016 16:46:07 GMT -6 Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2016 16:46:07 GMT -6 Jan 21, 2016 3:47:58 GMT -6 Fire Demon said: Jan 21, 2016 0:11:30 GMT -6 @diodemon said: While I hate anarchism I'm starting to hope the Kiwi's storm their parliament. For Australia it's just we all know we're fucked. There's pretty much no hope for us. If it comes in only the High Court can stand against it. Yeah but someone has to take this to the high court for them to challenge it.. Turnbull and every politician before him made almost no attempt to tell the public about this "trade deal." I don't think anyone has even made an effort to inform the public because it was all done in secret. The Ombudsman needs to have jurisdiction over the Federal Parliament since the Governor General doesn't do jack shit. I'm hoping when the Government try to pass the TPPA into Australian law the GG keeps knocking it back... but I doubt that will happen.
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Fire Demon Banned for Spam More chocolate please! I have made 2,563 posts Right now I'm Offline I joined August 2015 I've received 566 likes My gender is Male	So the TPPA might be a done deal.... Jan 22, 2016 22:01:46 GMT -6 Post by Fire Demon on Jan 22, 2016 22:01:46 GMT -6 Jan 22, 2016 16:46:07 GMT -6 @diodemon said: Jan 21, 2016 3:47:58 GMT -6 Fire Demon said: Yeah but someone has to take this to the high court for them to challenge it.. Turnbull and every politician before him made almost no attempt to tell the public about this "trade deal." I don't think anyone has even made an effort to inform the public because it was all done in secret. The Ombudsman needs to have jurisdiction over the Federal Parliament since the Governor General doesn't do jack shit. I'm hoping when the Government try to pass the TPPA into Australian law the GG keeps knocking it back... but I doubt that will happen. The GG has probably been given his brown paper bag just to shut up.
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Indeed, cannibalism of the dead is a cherished custom in Scotland. When a Scottish boy's coming of age is celebrated (a ceremony known as the Scot Mitzvah) he is forced to consume his own great-grandfather, bones and all, in just 24 hours, or else the local Shaman will hit him on the head with a magical stick that stops him from ever becoming an adult. Edited by ObserverStatus [Jan 22, 2016 23:14:12 GMT -6] Reply Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top

Deleted I have made 0 posts Right now I'm Offline I joined January 1970	So the TPPA might be a done deal.... Jan 25, 2016 17:45:07 GMT -6 Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2016 17:45:07 GMT -6 Well Malaysians are starting to protest but it seems their Government is adopting the "We know best." attitude www.theaustralian.com.au/news/latest-news/malaysians-protest-against-tpp/news-story/d731176ffe2dd5b664e3feac22708e9b
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Ravensword Banned for Spam I have made 1,974 posts Right now I'm Offline I joined August 2015 I've received 1,211 likes My gender is Male	So the TPPA might be a done deal.... Jan 25, 2016 18:21:11 GMT -6 via mobile Post by Ravensword on Jan 25, 2016 18:21:11 GMT -6 Jan 25, 2016 17:45:07 GMT -6 @diodemon said: Well Malaysians are starting to protest but it seems their Government is adopting the "We know best." attitude www.theaustralian.com.au/news/latest-news/malaysians-protest-against-tpp/news-story/d731176ffe2dd5b664e3feac22708e9b Technically Malaysia should be excluded from the TPP—which would then derail the whole agreement—b/c Senator Menendez attached a rider to the TPP that prevents the US from making trade agreements w/ countries that are Tier 3 Watch List for human trafficking. That should've shut down the agreement, but Mr. Obama wouldn't let such a little thing as dealing w/ countries that have a terrible human trafficking problem, w/ no signs of improvement, too. Nope. In a cynical move—and by extension, a middle finger to human rights—the State Department upgraded Malaysia to Tier 2, even though there has been absolutely no signs of improvement.
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Deleted I have made 0 posts Right now I'm Offline I joined January 1970	So the TPPA might be a done deal.... Jan 25, 2016 18:30:18 GMT -6 Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2016 18:30:18 GMT -6 The more and more this goes on the more I want to go back to a Feudal government.
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Fast Jimmy Pillar of the Community I have made 972 posts Right now I'm Offline I joined August 2015 I've received 910 likes My gender is Male	So the TPPA might be a done deal.... Jan 26, 2016 4:55:41 GMT -6 via Tapatalk Post by Fast Jimmy on Jan 26, 2016 4:55:41 GMT -6 I'm apparently the only one who looks at this and sees a really good trade deal.
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Deleted I have made 0 posts Right now I'm Offline I joined January 1970	So the TPPA might be a done deal.... Jan 26, 2016 5:43:24 GMT -6 Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2016 5:43:24 GMT -6 Free trade isn't the issue, that's something that we should ALL strive for. But it's like world peace. Tis impossible The issue with the TPP is that it grants certain members large benefits and others marginal benefits to others. Also there is a lot of secrecy and the parts that have been leaked show us that it's restricts the power of the Government and giving more power to businesses. It will also erode protection for local businesses which will allow larger foreign businesses to move in. I can also imagine foreign banks suing the Australian government because Big Bank International can't acquire the big four.
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Ravensword Banned for Spam I have made 1,974 posts Right now I'm Offline I joined August 2015 I've received 1,211 likes My gender is Male	So the TPPA might be a done deal.... Jan 26, 2016 12:37:59 GMT -6 via mobile Post by Ravensword on Jan 26, 2016 12:37:59 GMT -6 Those TPP tribunals will be staffed by the various corporate lawyers and lobbyists, so good luck in getting a fair hearing during trade such disputes.
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Fire Demon Banned for Spam More chocolate please! I have made 2,563 posts Right now I'm Offline I joined August 2015 I've received 566 likes My gender is Male	So the TPPA might be a done deal.... Jan 26, 2016 21:45:21 GMT -6 Post by Fire Demon on Jan 26, 2016 21:45:21 GMT -6 Jan 26, 2016 5:43:24 GMT -6 @diodemon said: Free trade isn't the issue, that's something that we should ALL strive for. But it's like world peace. Tis impossible The issue with the TPP is that it grants certain members large benefits and others marginal benefits to others. Also there is a lot of secrecy and the parts that have been leaked show us that it's restricts the power of the Government and giving more power to businesses. It will also erode protection for local businesses which will allow larger foreign businesses to move in. I can also imagine foreign banks suing the Australian government because Big Bank International can't acquire the big four. I'd say that is very likely. Also Australia has the smallest and tightest gathering of media ownership thanks to people like Murdoch who oppose relaxing media ownership regulations. At least in the USA they have more choices .. We'll never get there the way our media is run. Same for everything else.
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