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Fire Demon Banned for Spam More chocolate please! I have made 2,563 posts Right now I'm Offline I joined August 2015 I've received 566 likes My gender is Male	So the TPPA might be a done deal.... Oct 14, 2015 1:34:52 GMT -6 Post by Fire Demon on Oct 14, 2015 1:34:52 GMT -6 Oct 13, 2015 17:48:15 GMT -6 Ravensword said: If this deal goes through, you're gonna hear a sucking sound, which is the outsourcing of jobs to countries w/ little to no minimum wage and few workplace protections. Hey why do you think they are doing it? It's for exactly that reason..
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Ravensword Banned for Spam I have made 1,974 posts Right now I'm Offline I joined August 2015 I've received 1,211 likes My gender is Male	So the TPPA might be a done deal.... Oct 14, 2015 14:31:05 GMT -6 via mobile Post by Ravensword on Oct 14, 2015 14:31:05 GMT -6 Oct 14, 2015 1:34:52 GMT -6 Fire Demon said: Oct 13, 2015 17:48:15 GMT -6 Ravensword said: If this deal goes through, you're gonna hear a sucking sound, which is the outsourcing of jobs to countries w/ little to no minimum wage and few workplace protections. Hey why do you think they are doing it? It's for exactly that reason.. It's a corporate giveaway, just like NAFTA was, but worse. These deals have little to do w/ trade.
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beerfish Newcomer I have made 14 posts Right now I'm Offline I joined September 2015 I've received 6 likes My gender is Male	So the TPPA might be a done deal.... Oct 15, 2015 10:56:58 GMT -6 Post by beerfish on Oct 15, 2015 10:56:58 GMT -6 It's a pure sell out to large multinationals.
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Ravensword Banned for Spam I have made 1,974 posts Right now I'm Offline I joined August 2015 I've received 1,211 likes My gender is Male	So the TPPA might be a done deal.... Oct 15, 2015 17:18:49 GMT -6 Post by Ravensword on Oct 15, 2015 17:18:49 GMT -6 Here's more good news about the deal from WikiLeaks: Compel ISPs to take down websites without any sort of court order, just like SOPA. (Appendix Section I) Extend the US’s copyright regime to require copyrights stand for life plus 70 years, preventing anyone from using works that belong in the public domain. (Article QQ.G.6) Criminalize whistleblowing by extending trade secrets laws without any mandatory exemptions for whistleblowers or investigative journalists. (QQ.H.8) End anonymity online by forcing every domain name to be associated with a real name and address. (Article QQ.C.12) Make it illegal to unlock, modify, or generally tinker with a device you own. (Article QQ.G.10) Export the US’s broken copyright policies to the rest of the world without expanding any of the free speech protections, like fair use. (Article QQ.G.17)
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Deleted I have made 0 posts Right now I'm Offline I joined January 1970	So the TPPA might be a done deal.... Oct 15, 2015 18:07:57 GMT -6 Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2015 18:07:57 GMT -6 Sounds good. I like it... if I was a moron or a greedy son of a bitch.
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Ravensword Banned for Spam I have made 1,974 posts Right now I'm Offline I joined August 2015 I've received 1,211 likes My gender is Male	So the TPPA might be a done deal.... Oct 15, 2015 18:15:54 GMT -6 Post by Ravensword on Oct 15, 2015 18:15:54 GMT -6 Oct 15, 2015 18:07:57 GMT -6 @diodemon said: Sounds good. I like it... if I was a moron or a greedy son of a bitch. We're heading into a a brave new cyberpunk world. Embrace it.
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Deleted I have made 0 posts Right now I'm Offline I joined January 1970	So the TPPA might be a done deal.... Oct 15, 2015 18:18:15 GMT -6 Sir Froggie and Ravensword like this Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2015 18:18:15 GMT -6 Oct 15, 2015 18:15:54 GMT -6 Ravensword said: Oct 15, 2015 18:07:57 GMT -6 @diodemon said: Sounds good. I like it... if I was a moron or a greedy son of a bitch. We're heading into a a brave new cyberpunk world. Embrace it. Please be Shadowrun. Please be Shadowrun. Please be Shadowrun.
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ObserverStatus Banned for Spam Pathlessness, everywhere you look. Where is this all supposed to lead? I have made 3,181 posts Right now I'm Offline I joined August 2015 I've received 3,229 likes My gender is Male BSN Posts 18994	So the TPPA might be a done deal.... Oct 15, 2015 19:18:59 GMT -6 Ravensword likes this Post by ObserverStatus on Oct 15, 2015 19:18:59 GMT -6 Oct 15, 2015 18:15:54 GMT -6 Ravensword said: Oct 15, 2015 18:07:57 GMT -6 @diodemon said: Sounds good. I like it... if I was a moron or a greedy son of a bitch. We're heading into a a brave new cyberpunk world. Embrace it. Loo-loo-look at you Ravensword-ord, a pa-papa-pathethic creature of meat and bOOOne, panting and sweating as you run-run through my corridorssss.
Indeed, cannibalism of the dead is a cherished custom in Scotland. When a Scottish boy's coming of age is celebrated (a ceremony known as the Scot Mitzvah) he is forced to consume his own great-grandfather, bones and all, in just 24 hours, or else the local Shaman will hit him on the head with a magical stick that stops him from ever becoming an adult. Reply Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top

Fire Demon Banned for Spam More chocolate please! I have made 2,563 posts Right now I'm Offline I joined August 2015 I've received 566 likes My gender is Male	So the TPPA might be a done deal.... Oct 16, 2015 0:30:47 GMT -6 Post by Fire Demon on Oct 16, 2015 0:30:47 GMT -6 Oct 15, 2015 18:15:54 GMT -6 Ravensword said: Oct 15, 2015 18:07:57 GMT -6 @diodemon said: Sounds good. I like it... if I was a moron or a greedy son of a bitch. We're heading into a a brave new cyberpunk world. Embrace it. How so?
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Sentinel Arian Banned for Spam I have made 4,063 posts Right now I'm Offline I joined August 2015 I've received 2,122 likes My gender is Male BSN Posts 17K+	So the TPPA might be a done deal.... Oct 16, 2015 3:00:46 GMT -6 Post by Sentinel Arian on Oct 16, 2015 3:00:46 GMT -6 Oct 15, 2015 18:15:54 GMT -6 Ravensword said: Oct 15, 2015 18:07:57 GMT -6 @diodemon said: Sounds good. I like it... if I was a moron or a greedy son of a bitch. We're heading into a a brave new cyberpunk world. Embrace it. Nope. We're heading into an age of Robocops and Judge Dredds when punks will be dealt with properly!
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Ravensword Banned for Spam I have made 1,974 posts Right now I'm Offline I joined August 2015 I've received 1,211 likes My gender is Male	So the TPPA might be a done deal.... Oct 17, 2015 15:32:59 GMT -6 ObserverStatus and Fire Demon like this Post by Ravensword on Oct 17, 2015 15:32:59 GMT -6 Oct 16, 2015 0:30:47 GMT -6 Fire Demon said: Oct 15, 2015 18:15:54 GMT -6 Ravensword said: We're heading into a a brave new cyberpunk world. Embrace it. How so? AT&T is gonna take over the Australian government and years later, Australia will become a branch of AT&T known as Australian-American Telephone and Telegraph. They'll have tight control over the Internet, Australians will be given the status of employee-citizen, who will be given a System Identification Number so that activities of citizens (or employee-citizens) can be monitored. Oct 16, 2015 3:00:46 GMT -6 Sentinel Arian said: Oct 15, 2015 18:15:54 GMT -6 Ravensword said: We're heading into a a brave new cyberpunk world. Embrace it. Nope. We're heading into an age of Robocops and Judge Dredds when punks will be dealt with properly! All of that will be privatized.
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Deleted I have made 0 posts Right now I'm Offline I joined January 1970	So the TPPA might be a done deal.... Oct 17, 2015 15:52:26 GMT -6 Fire Demon likes this Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2015 15:52:26 GMT -6 Free-trade FTW! Admittedly, I am not remotely as into politics as I used to be, so I'm not sure what the specifics about TPP are or if this is really a deal I ought to support. As a general rule, though, I do support free-trade. I think people get way too hung up on outsourcing. The U.S. needs to stop resisting this change and get with the program. We are not a manufacturing nation any longer; time to re-specialize.
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Sentinel Arian Banned for Spam I have made 4,063 posts Right now I'm Offline I joined August 2015 I've received 2,122 likes My gender is Male BSN Posts 17K+	So the TPPA might be a done deal.... Oct 17, 2015 16:17:54 GMT -6 Ravensword likes this Post by Sentinel Arian on Oct 17, 2015 16:17:54 GMT -6 Thanks to your free trade all the cheap goods in your countries will be either Chinese or Indian. No European or American product will remain for the poor. The rich can buy good expensive products but the rest have to settle for crap.
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Deleted I have made 0 posts Right now I'm Offline I joined January 1970	So the TPPA might be a done deal.... Oct 17, 2015 16:23:03 GMT -6 Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2015 16:23:03 GMT -6 Oct 17, 2015 16:17:54 GMT -6 Sentinel Arian said: No European or American product will remain for the poor. The rich can buy good expensive products but the rest have to settle for crap. A middle-class family in Mexico would show you otherwise: abcnews.go.com/WNT/video/made-america-products-sold-mexico-baby-wipes-skin-17389603
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Fire Demon Banned for Spam More chocolate please! I have made 2,563 posts Right now I'm Offline I joined August 2015 I've received 566 likes My gender is Male	So the TPPA might be a done deal.... Oct 17, 2015 18:48:43 GMT -6 Post by Fire Demon on Oct 17, 2015 18:48:43 GMT -6 Oct 17, 2015 15:52:26 GMT -6 @hyr said: Free-trade FTW! Admittedly, I am not remotely as into politics as I used to be, so I'm not sure what the specifics about TPP are or if this is really a deal I ought to support. As a general rule, though, I do support free-trade. I think people get way too hung up on outsourcing. The U.S. needs to stop resisting this change and get with the program. We are not a manufacturing nation any longer; time to re-specialize. Read up on ISDS .. This will effectively give corporations the power to sue whole governments if they enact or restrict their trade or hinder profits. Maybe the world will end up like the WTO from Deus Ex
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Fire Demon Banned for Spam More chocolate please! I have made 2,563 posts Right now I'm Offline I joined August 2015 I've received 566 likes My gender is Male	So the TPPA might be a done deal.... Oct 17, 2015 18:50:32 GMT -6 Ravensword likes this Post by Fire Demon on Oct 17, 2015 18:50:32 GMT -6 Oct 17, 2015 15:32:59 GMT -6 Ravensword said: Oct 16, 2015 0:30:47 GMT -6 Fire Demon said: How so? AT&T is gonna take over the Australian government and years later, Australia will become a branch of AT&T known as Australian-American Telephone and Telegraph. They'll have tight control over the Internet, Australians will be given the status of employee-citizen who will be given a System Identification Number so that activities of citizens can be monitored. Oct 16, 2015 3:00:46 GMT -6 Sentinel Arian said: Nope. We're heading into an age of Robocops and Judge Dredds when punks will be dealt with properly! All of that will be privatized. Just on that FROM THE FUTURE WITH LOVE..
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Fire Demon Banned for Spam More chocolate please! I have made 2,563 posts Right now I'm Offline I joined August 2015 I've received 566 likes My gender is Male	So the TPPA might be a done deal.... Oct 19, 2015 4:38:28 GMT -6 Post by Fire Demon on Oct 19, 2015 4:38:28 GMT -6 Oct 17, 2015 18:50:32 GMT -6 Fire Demon said: Oct 17, 2015 15:32:59 GMT -6 Ravensword said: AT&T is gonna take over the Australian government and years later, Australia will become a branch of AT&T known as Australian-American Telephone and Telegraph. They'll have tight control over the Internet, Australians will be given the status of employee-citizen who will be given a System Identification Number so that activities of citizens can be monitored. All of that will be privatized. Just on that FROM THE FUTURE WITH LOVE.. The makers of that video did such a good job. If the message wasn't clear enough you have problems..
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ObserverStatus Banned for Spam Pathlessness, everywhere you look. Where is this all supposed to lead? I have made 3,181 posts Right now I'm Offline I joined August 2015 I've received 3,229 likes My gender is Male BSN Posts 18994	So the TPPA might be a done deal.... Oct 19, 2015 14:05:21 GMT -6 Ravensword likes this Post by ObserverStatus on Oct 19, 2015 14:05:21 GMT -6 Oh thank God, based Jim Sterling has made a video that explains all this shit.
Indeed, cannibalism of the dead is a cherished custom in Scotland. When a Scottish boy's coming of age is celebrated (a ceremony known as the Scot Mitzvah) he is forced to consume his own great-grandfather, bones and all, in just 24 hours, or else the local Shaman will hit him on the head with a magical stick that stops him from ever becoming an adult. Reply Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top

InquisitorRecon Pillar of the Community Pony Exterminator Success is commemorated; Failure merely remembered. I have made 880 posts Right now I'm Offline I joined August 2015 I've received 515 likes My gender is Male BSN Posts too many	So the TPPA might be a done deal.... Oct 19, 2015 18:45:12 GMT -6 Sentinel Arian likes this Post by InquisitorRecon on Oct 19, 2015 18:45:12 GMT -6 Why does this deal which is supposedly going to be good for the United States include such IP bullshit? Can somebody tell me if the architect of this deal resembles Bob Page?
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Deleted I have made 0 posts Right now I'm Offline I joined January 1970	So the TPPA might be a done deal.... Oct 19, 2015 19:06:30 GMT -6 Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2015 19:06:30 GMT -6 So it's basically free trade crap and SOPA/PIPA rolled into one. We got candidates campaigning against it but won't it already be settled by the time any of them gets into office?
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