I can't tell but if I'm there it must be toxic by default.

Look we all know Bioware was murdered by SJWs....

I think it's just time to let it die... at least then the healing can begin.

At the end of the day, I mean, I've probably seen more toxic places I guess... but IMO the fact that it actually affected something (i.e. the company's direction and all that) is what makes the situation different. 

IMO DA:I will be the last game reminiscent of Bioware and then...... the abyss I guess. 

Probably can't agree more with you than I do with this post. Even down to Sigrun > Dorian > everyone else. 

Like you say, BW are not that SJW and generally is very reasonable in what they do with characters. It's the fanbase that always take it a good 25 miles too far. Was "part" of the mage side in the DA2 which apparantly made me a spineless manchild or something. Had some good discussions with the more reasonable people that sided with the templars. 

Still have to do a Templar run of 2 and DAI since I've always gone mages but yes, Sigrun and medieval Freddy Mercury make my soul so happy.

There's a ton of amusement in hearing people angst about a SJW agenda in MEA cause uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh what the fuck? Can't say I see it in the slightest so far and I'm a decent way into the story. There's a lot I could say in why I think some people aren't quite as..... adjusted to the story it tells but that might wait til I finish the game. A few people know cause I've been pretty clear on it in conversation. It's not exactly a shot at people but... just judging by things I've heard beyond the usual overblown things, it's a pattern I've noticed a fair bit.

But yeah finished (more or less, there's cleanup to do) the third planet yesterday and still really enjoying the game a lot so far. Taking my time with it, around 40 hours in and only at 25% done. Potentially not going to do everything ever this go around but yeah, it's been worth the money so far.

Ummm, yeah. MEA is many things, but I mean, what? There are a few moments where certain things perhaps one could see as 'SJW' (ugh) influence, if one were silly enough. Some scenes discuss the significance of a character's sexual orientation on a mission that is essentially 'go to this far off place and make babies'. Seems like a fairly relevant thing to bring up imo. Otherwise people liking what they like is treated as the mundane character trait with no one in universe really giving a crap one way or another that its always been in ME. Noooothing has changed, except seemingly most squadies and romance options only bringing that stuff up when Ryder tries to slide into their pants. Way better writing.

Mind you, I'm never not gonna laugh at the one trans character I bumped into, 'cos damn is she written bad, but that just harkens back to what Sir Moe said. And you could oh-so easily never even meet her or miss that part of her character entirely if you weren't paying attention. And one minor character amongst hundreds.


For the record I'm far enough (exaltation) that I feel like I can cement an opinion on the game, and I'd say I'm enjoying it a bunch. Agree with the ME1 vibe and refinement mentioned by some already, which is perhaps... Not necessarily what I thought I wanted or expected a couple of years back? But I'm enjoying it all the same, and the marketing definitely tempered my own expectations, so I'm sure that's helped.

Animation jankness was either massively blown out of proportion through selecting a few meme worthy scenes, or my Sara custom managed to circumvent most of it (rather proud of her).

Squadies are hit and miss in quality, though I'm at least liking a couple a lot, and some of the crew more than make up for the few slackers. Doesn't seem unreasonable at all to say combat and the mechanics around it like skills and profiles are easily at the best the series has been. Many bugs, pointless level transitions, and tedious UI do hamper the experience a bit, but for me at least not to a degree that I'm not enjoying it. I appreciate the tone and vibe its going for and am just generally having fun. Once again, maybe all that isn't very Bioware, but I'm cool with it.

And MP, with the game's great combat and some greater company is a ton of fun. X)

What I assume to be the kick off of Vetra's loyalty machine is bugged for me and won't start. So I'm really waiting on that patch. X)

Your experiences alone with bugs and glitches make me feel like waiting is more and more the right choice. Would reach lethal levels of unamusement otherwise

Mmm, you'll ideally be without conversations as a corpse, Ryder initiating dialogue with with a 'goodbye', immovable scopes, screaming DS4 speakers, bugged achievements and so on. An all round better experience!

I know. Given how the game actually played out; siding with the mages seemed stupid. I did side with the mages a lot in one playthrough, but they kept attacking me in the streets anyway. Their supporters did too. If I helped some of the mages, they showed up and turned on me in the next chapter.  Not unlike some of the full-blown SJWs at BSN, actually.