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Post by The Hawkeye God on Oct 14, 2015 6:50:11 GMT -6
All in all, Hillary was the clear winner in my opinion: it's not surprising. After all, she has the best debating skills by far, having honed her skills during the 2008 election cycle, on the Senate, and in the State Department. She knows how to be sharp and on point, though several of her points were misleading (though true). She basically had a lot of red meat for the base, and she knew it, and she threw it out.
Bernie was the only real alternative, and his lack of debating experience showed (as I believed it would). It's not that his message is inferior to Hillary, but that this is the instance where his gruff approach will work against him, and where he saw a distinct shortcoming of his agenda by failing to provide a good response on foreign policy. I think he was jumped on guns, but I think that he knew what he was talking about, but that he was simply outmaneuvered in rhetoric by Hillary. He did score a lot of points for not dropping his stance on being a candidate who won't jump onto personal attacks and easy wounds (a theme I thought was quite prevalent last night for the Democrats), though in the long run, I wonder how well that will serve him. Hillary isn't going to be as generous or kind once the real primaries start, and if he becomes the Democratic nominee (against the odds), the Republicans will not hesitate to attack him, his character, or anything he wants. Granted, I don't think they're going to be as effective as Hillary. As I've said, I believe that whoever wins the Democratic nomination is the person who will get the White House. Bernie will have to shore up his position on gun control for certain, and he'll definitely have to address foreign policy a lot better. However, he has the most vocal, and most powerful voice when it comes to financial and economic reform, and he stuck to it there, winning many points. That said, he needs to better address his stance as a Socialist. Not that he should distance himself from it (not at all), but he needs to realize that that is what is going to be the ultimate target on his back during the election cycle, and the Clinton machine and the Republicans will be shouting everything in their power to point out. If Carson got the nomination for example, I can see Carson calling him a Nazi (which would actually be brilliant for Bernie, if he retorted that he was descended from European Jews and was nothing like Hitler, and that the comparison was horrifically insulting. It would be the best chance for Carson to insert his foot into his mouth). But point is, Bernie being a socialist is going to work against him. He's going to need a good response and defense for that: as it is, any Republican can just say 'socialism' and people will foam at the mouth. They don't know what it means. Bernie does. Many democrats (and several Republicans) do as well. But most people don't really understand that. And Bernie hasn't been doing a great job communicating that. And the Republicans are going to attack that with as much force as possible.
O'Malley is a good candidate, I believe, but there's nothing to him that distinguishes him from anybody else. Which is his biggest shortcoming. I support him (I'd even say that if he had any more than 10%, I'd support him over Bernie), but he just doesn't have the political clout or capital that Hillary has, or the zeal, popularity, and sincerity of Bernie. I felt like he was running for Vice President more than anything else.
Jim Webb was arguably the closet Republican on the stage (albeit leaps and bounds more sensible and rational than any of the goons running for the GOP nomination: he is representative of what the Republican party should be about in our day and age. And I'm not, never have been, and likely never will be a Republican.) He did well on areas of foreign policy (though he would have done better if he didn't use what little time he got to grump about what little time he was getting.) I agree with him on the short-term over energy policy. He's absolutely right about nuclear power, and that is a valid solution to moving away from coal. His biggest failing I think was talking about his war experience in the way that civilians, especially liberals, will find off-putting. He struggled to find a place with the other candidates, and I think that that was a shortcoming where the focus was on domestic policies and economics, not on foreign policy, his forte.
Lincoln Chafee... where to begin? He was just plain awful. He shot himself in the foot, and stuck said foot into his mouth over Hillary. The man has some points, but he has no ability to communicate at all in a decent manner. I feel like the only thing he has won so far is the contest that let him be on stage with the other candidates.
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