I don't recall that being a primary focus? Also do you have a source that says nuclear is necessary? There are multiple countries with populations greater than a state that are now either majority green energy (Solar, wind, water/tidal) or fully powered google it. It's a thing it's happening in Europe just not here. The fukishma daichi problem and rising temperatures with difficulty cooling down reactors also poses a threat to nuclear energy, supposedly I heard this somewhere but I don't know where and can't find the source.




Comparable != exceeds and the F-22 to my understanding had similar stealth, sensors, and ESM. Even if you could go on longer than I could about it, the failure of the program in sheer terms of cost and lost time for what it has delivered (almost consistently grounded problematic craft that are only comparable in theory to other weapons in the arsenal, but functionally a noose) amounts to a loss of our dominance in aerospace. How about the slow burn death of nasa as we rely on private industry or russia to ferry our astronaughts and constantly restrict their funding time and time again... I mean if you really want to back aerospace developments, stop funding a failed multi-role fighter that can't leave the ground and maybe give nasa billions of dollars instead. It's not like they've revolutionized aerospace in the past or anything or like technologies directly a result of the space program pushed other fields forward.... (sarcasm).





I mean... Lindsay Graham doesn't seem to know how congress works at times... So it's probably not surprising that he's backing the boss man. Fact of the matter is the reports in and there are multiple lines which underscore that the president ordered staff to perform actions that were knowingly illegal at times, and staff refused. There have been plenty of corrupt staffers found by the investigation. My point is this presidency was mostly for his gain, and whether collusion occurred or not the results have been beneficial to russia at nearly every major junction.



As a child i remember learning how bad Nazis were and that nazis don't exist in america and that we're a country that accepts foreigners and loves immigrants and differences we ARE the melting pot. As an adult i look back and say how naive that was, knowing the situation then was complex. Looking at the complexity of the situation then and comparing it to the societal dysfunction we currently have.... Rising Hate Crimes, Proliferation of mass shootings, xenophobia to the point armed militia men are apprehending migrants at the border with no legitimate authority to do so, islamaphobia, a loss of secular thought, a rising theocracy, further restricted social mobility, supporting dictators and criminals we should instead be deposing, ignoring human rights issues, recreating ghettos and concentration camps, kidnapping children at the border, increases in anti-semitism, gag orders on some of our sciences, cuts to public funding of education and the sciences, a rising tide of nationalist white-power movements, covert support for fascism....

This has been the legacy of the president. Sure he's not accomplished much on a policy level, because some of the time cooler heads prevail, but in the publics eyes he's emboldened this, he's encouraged this, he has been cited by foreign white power groups as fueling their brands of violence.

To me that is too sucessful, and for a man who claims not to support that stuff, he sure as hell acts to the contrary.

US Christians fled that church body if I recall.

See underlined bolded and italicized and really consider your stance. Also history sans people has no purpose. All I'll say on french matters is amid the yellow vest protests this feels alot like a "let them eat cake" moment to me. Honestly, reznore and his pals abroad should probably break out the guillotines and start some head hunting in the good old tradition of the french revolution, then make a stop to the US to lend us the guillotines.


the exageration is not without a point, as it demonstrates the now popular framing that there's some aspect of inferiority about the SA and CA countries. And that's only a rising trend thanks to the commander in doritos.
The motivations of a dead man don't matter much, Ego should not be a motive for the presidency. And assuming there is a sense/desire of wanting to do good is contrary to all of his actions thus far. Can you demonstrate one actually good thing trump did that wasn't immediately followed by a larger negative?

For the 19th time this year VENEZUELA IS NOT A SOCIALISM I'm not sure how many times we're all going to collectively have to say that. but honestly its becoming tiring. That anyone can remotely construe AOC type agenda with the Venezuealization of america just demonstrates how badly the public education system has clearly failed some.

Says the guy whose whole shtick -- not just here, I notice you also did this in TSG and cBSN political threads while they lasted -- is to pontificate about how everyone else's ideas on any given political issue are soooo stupid while never daring to put yourself out there with any ideas of your own -!!

Oh, you'll add some half-assed statement somewhere in your rambling posts saying something to the effect of "I agree that [X] status-quo issue needs to be addressed somehow, BUT"

Then turn around and return to your usual programming: why everyone who dares to put forward a solution (mostly on the Left, with run-of-the-mill right-wing talking points, but you throw in the occasional jab at the Right to distance yourself from the inconveniences that come with being on any side at all) is an idiot.

What ideas do you offer, though? | N O T H I N G | . That would take some guts, mental exertion, and would open you up to being critiqued for your own views -- can't have any of that, that would detract from how Big Brained you are by shitting on everyone else!





At least Trump and any MAGA chud who follows him have the courage of their convictions; that makes them infinitely more worthy of respect than your ass.

HYR and Recon, please knock it off on the insults to each other. It's really making the discussions worse than they need to be.

One and only warning here.

Because I don't want to have to finally figure out how to do a day or week ban after being a mod for a billion years here. lmao

That's irrelevant to you two provoking each other.

Putting him on ignore is the right idea for you.

He is not really trolling. He is just saying his opinions about people and stuff. I disagree and dislike the guy too. But the only one feeding him truly is you since you're the only here that feels he is a troll. Which he is a lot of things, but not really a troll.

And this is the last I am saying anything on this issue since you put him on ignore, so let's all move on now.

So... at least now we know that if Bill Clinton wanted to tell Lorretta Lynch that the investigation into Hillary Clinton's e-mail server is unfair and witch hunt, he just needed to do it on twitter.

Go ahead and ban me if it pleases you, then. If we're allowing trolls now then I'm not sure I'm even interested in posting here any longer.

You might as well invite all the incels off of cBSN and get the whole gang together while you're at it! 

I'll give those a look over at some point.

However: We have 50 of those, with landmasses over which we can build more solar farms, and wind farms than could be built in any one of those nations. And cost lines that stretch further than anyone of those nations. Take for consideration the Hoover Damn and the immense range to which it provides energy. Imagine solar and wind farms on a comparable scale. It's doable. we have the technology, the resources, the space.

At the very least working in that direction needs to be something that is significantly considered. And if nuclear reactors must be involved we need to figure out how to effeciently and safely handle the waste. We can't afford to wait much longer.



I'm not going to argue the technical specifications of a fighter that has more in common with an over priced parked car than anything that can become airborne. The argument is moot we're literally wasting billions on a machine that is incapable of serving us. Prove me wrong but some don't expect the fighters to be flight worthy as soon as 2026 and there is no signs that the aerodynamic coffin will be or presently is flight worthy. Hell the Japanese F-35A fleet is grounded in april 9th 2019 now because not even the ones they order work properly... Like I said it's a great car, but until it's airborne and functioning as ordered your the theoretical capabilties are just hypothetical.


Defense spending is abominably higher than it was post 9/11. I looked into this last night, the only time it's been higher was durring the Obama Administration around the period of time we started our drone war against ISIS. Defense spending has consistently been almost 200% more than what we were spending during the peak of the the war on terror and operation iraqi freedom. DOD budget can confirm that for you if you doubt. We're practically a giant militarized island. Canceling further funding of the JSF-35 program and instead focusing it into nasa or other areas (like student loan relief) would be astronomically impactful just in that action. And that wouldn't even be a "key area" since it's literally providing us 0 tangible or intagible benefits.

If the presidency compromises the balance of power it is their constitutional job to defend it. If they don't then that's their decision unfortunately but all indications are we are in the midst of a constitutional crisis, and congressional abdication of power needs to be halted. We can see how it plays out, but impeachment is almost a necessary step at this point whether its successful or not simply to avoid a precedence. Just remember whatever Trump gets away with can be used as a legal precedence for the next Democratic or Opposition candidate. Pelosi made that quite clear with the national emergency situation. And the more powers ceded to the presidency and flexibility they have to bend those powers, the less like a democracy we become.


I'm not going to recap almost 4 years of consistent political gaffes and the ostracism of our European and Asian allies as well as the hits that NATO has taken and our lack of cooperation on a global scale. When the US leaves a situation there is a power vacuum and russia is making sure to fill it and exploit the lack of unity among NATO allies.




www.wiaawi.org/portals/0/pdf/sports/basketball_boys/bk_gyms.pdf <-link to a list of highschool gymnasium seating capacities.

Now this is just vox but I think it proves the point: www.vox.com/2018/8/10/17670992/study-white-americans-alt-right-racism-white-nationalists <-estimated number of americans polled who think like Alt-Right supporters.

Now when I get home, if you can't do the math at a glance from that highschool gymnasium seat count, I can. But I can assure you

Highschool Gymnasiums seat < White Supremacist asses in america.



Whoa there nelly, it sounds like you're playing the FoS card on me there. Please go on. Demonstrate to me the systemic oppression of the 1st ammendment right in the public discourse. Consider 1 we are presently having a dialogue about this. 2. Unite the Right Does exist. 3. The only suppression we actually evidenced the last time this came up was ICE brutally pepper shooting at point blank peaceful american protesters. 4. There are no Public Universities in the US that were not already sworn to uphold the constitution, 5. Private Universities are Predomantly religious and have relgious curriculums. 6. 1st ammendment rights do not include a militia's 'right' to arrest someone. 7. White Nationalist Protests have happened. 8. There is presently an active member of the Nazi Party serving someone in this country. 9. We just briefly touched on american Identity and it will very clearly be alive in 3 months time.

I don't dissagree with you on the radicalism according to the FBI Hate Crimes have skyrocketed under the current presidency, and there is more anti-semetic, and islamophibic talk in the streets as well as an increased tendency towards racist conduct towards mexicans, hispanics, arabs, and blacks.



www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/01/27/millions-of-americans-believe-god-made-trump-president-216537
www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-signs-order-aimed-at-allowing-churches-to-engage-in-more-political-activity/2017/05/04/024ed7c2-30d3-11e7-9534-00e4656c22aa_story.html
nypost.com/2018/06/04/supreme-court-ruling-is-a-win-for-religious-freedom/

I could point out more, but I don't care again to recap almost 4 years of inattentiveness.



See previous comments about valuing life over things. You do not have to necessarily depose a dictator, just dont sit there and praise their oppressiveness. Condemn them sternly, levy international actions against them, provide their people with the means to rebel.


I'm not going to get into the gun controlly side in this aside here, that's a seperate topic completely. But Also there has been an increase and in most cases, these are white supremecists or folks with white supremacist beliefs, In particular I believe I had new zealands recent massacre in mind when writing about it. In the states we clearly need more restrictive laws and better enforcement of those laws. Law abiding citizens will abide the laws, they won't be paying. They'll be obeying the laws.
Jobs should be paying people living wages, and when the burden of medical debt, student debt are so high wiht low wages social mobility is substantially impacted. More jobs do not solve the problem if the jobs do not pay well enough to leave one social rung let alone live comfortably within another.



I honestly didn't even read this because It's Pappy Noam, www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2017/04/05/noam_chomsky_friendly_fascism_could_happen_in_the_usa_crematoria_not_a_core_part_of_the_ideology.html , but this gets at it i'm sure. I can find more for you to read




Oh i'm sure that is the case in the case of the yellow vests. But the entire scenario harkens back to the "let them eat cake" we often discuss here with maria antoinette. Big thing in the public is hurt. Peeps are kinda sad. Let us rebuild it to fix their problems -say the rich people "look at al this money we have to just fix up this building" they say again ignoring the problems of the working class. That is my point. It's probably not helping things and is likely only making the situation worse. There were better places and ways they could've helped their country. But You'd need to clue me in on the poland thing. I don't pay attention to East European News generally.




en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCarthyism
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watergate_scandal
www.aei.org/publication/the-shocking-and-sickening-story-behind-nixons-war-on-drugs-that-targeted-blacks-and-anti-war-activists/
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics_in_the_United_States

I mean I can keep just giving you lists of garbage things we did that are equally as bad or comparable to some of the darkest moments of human history if you'd like but the distance is not as far as you'd think. If you didn't harbor an unconcious ill will you wouldn't imply or assume any sort of superiority or use them as an index of negativity yet here we are. It's ok though, this is a thing that has happened throughout our soceity and is strongly conditioned in the American mindset. It's hard to be aware of it or even really recognize it when you're the one espousing it. You could call it a Microagression against Non-White Americans but really it's just an extension of American Racism if you ask me.



Look i'm getting tired of the wall of text too, but this is a discussion. If you're trying to sell me on the actions of the Commander and Cheato you can't simply hand wave away his bad as "human nature comes into play" that's a highschool argument I made against communism in highschool. Human Nature is a driving factor for everything. Washington Had human nature. Obama Had human nature. I have human nature, you have human nature, surprisingly yes even hitler had human nature. By simple fact of being human our human nature applies to us. It is not a cop-out or excuse or an explanation for anything so much as a totally dismissal of any [x] provided something is human. The issue is he operates well aroudn the bounds of what most would consider to be morally acceptable.

You back the pompus orange blimp for what reason again? Because of an assumption he has some good intention for the country was it? Where is the evidence? What has he done to merit that assumption?



american socialist perspective is the traditional european economy. It's a good formula it works. that's basically it.For the more radical of us yeah, communism seems appealing, but it's not possible currently. One day it maybe but probably not. The biggest thing is that Medicare for All, Universal Education, and Living wages is not going to bankrupt the US. No more than the damn F-35 and unrestrained military spending will.



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We're all buds here lets not be getting too heated.