Anita uses emotion not reasons to make a case for something which people just aren't used to in public discourse in the "west" I guess.

The irony, ok wrong words, predictability? That it's an Armenian girl versus Sargon of Akkad... seems to be lost on people.

I mean really what is the modern world if conflicts from the 2nd millenium BC can be dredged up...

Well whatever, anyway I have no problem understanding her points and if people can't do that it's because they've been too isolated from different forms of commentary/argumentation.

Also it's incredibly ironic because Ancient Greece is one of the places that popularized that particular form of examining problems, so it's like a world presumably based on Western Civ getting schooled by someone actually knowledgeable about Western Civ....

I can agree with most of what you're saying. I don't have to agree with every point she makes to appreciate the value in applying that viewpoint. There's a lot of things she says that for me falls into that grey territory where I don't completely agree with what she said, nor do I necessarily disagree with it either; like examples where a character can be called overly sexualized by one person, and have another person feeling that the character is a strong woman in charge of her sexuality, both these viewpoints can exist at the same time and have some merit depending on how you want to look at it.

And I completely understand that there's nothing wrong with applying it to a show or game you like. I've never had an issue with that. There are games I've played that are cheesy as fuck and fall into character tropes in which despite that I still really like the game, just because those tropes exist doesn't mean it's a bad game or like I should feel threatened for someone pointing out it exists, I really do get that and agree with the sentiment.

Furthermore I can agree that she doesn't deserve a lot of the hate she has gotten, or at the very least certainly not to the degree she got it. Even from the PoV that she's bad at what she does, a bad critique still isn't something that should cause people to go to her social media and call her a dumb cunt, or spam her and certainly not anywhere near the level that she deserves death threats or to be threatened. I'm fine with her continuing to do what she's doing, if the people that give her the money to do it feel it's worth it then that's good enough regardless of how I feel.

Thing is I've seen her make points that I agree with, I've seen videos I thought were better then others, particularly outside her gaming series ones. Even with her gaming ones there's still a couple points I can agree with her on. Things like examples of positive female characters in games I can look at and say it's a good list. Maybe even her season 2 for tropes versus women in videogames is decent? I can't say cause I only watched the first season.

But when people act like the only reason someone may not like her, or doesn't agree with her is because they're threatened that a woman dared to criticize their games or because they're anti-feminist then yeah, that's complete and utter bullshit generalization. It honestly like listening to someone go "you just criticize America because you hate freedom" or "feminists are really just men haters and want society to cater to women" and I end up finding there's very little to no actual discussion ever being made because so many people you talk to are just completely going base their views on assumptions of what you really are saying or what you really believe.

Is some asshole overgeneralizing or strawmanning opposing views worse then the people who have actually gone as far as to threaten Anita? Or who have gone the extra mile to personally harass her? No, absolutely not. In that sense the worst examples of what I've seen comes from the people who dislike her, and some of them I'd even say deserve to be charged for what they did like in the case of someone threatening to bomb one of her seminars, a threat is a threat regardless of whether you know it's legit or not. Nonetheless I still feel the people that overgeneralize the crap out of it regardless of which side they're on are part of the problem and only serve to reinforce the opinions of the people who don't agree with them.

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I've gotta say I don't appreciate the 'anti-miscegenation' takes that pop up on the left either.

Maybe I'm being unfair in my description of it but I read it as 'ahh, but when the left does it we're complaining about cultural imperialism, the opposite of white genocide, so it's actually good to complain about it this way.'

And ehh I don't buy it at all.

www.gamespot.com/forums/offtopic-discussion-314159273/former-neogaf-mod-amir0x-arrested-on-child-porn-ch-33397370/?page=1

One of the loud Anti-gamergaters, and a self proclaimed feminist, just got arrested for child-porn. Nude pics of 12 year old girls were found on his computer and on his phone.

This has become somewhat of a pattern the last few years. I have seen a few articles where quite a few anti-gamergaters have been arrested for Rape and stuff like that. Creepy.

I never said SJWs. I said anti-gamergaters.


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Just kind of ironic that the people who screamed the loudest about sexism and feminism are now charged with rape, child-porn, stalking, sexual assault etc.

Also in continuing with the jackbooted march of political correctness.

www.jpost.com/Diaspora/British-Jewish-school-risks-closure-for-refusal-to-teach-LGBT-issues-498177

Note that this is a school for Jewish girls aged 3 to 8. What sort of education on LGBT issues does an 8 year old need?

Back 1000 years ago when I was in middle school and then high school everybody got by with there being a "gay straight alliance" club and a general "don't bully people" policy. I think there was one assembly in high school where a bunch of gay individuals talked about times they had been discriminated against which seemed rather unnecessary as that really wasn't a problem in our school. I can only presume things have become much more bizarre in recent years. Do they teach kids about the 70 alternate genders and pronouns for them? Or "otherkin" and all of that stuff?

No, just homosexuality and gender transitioning.

And why wouldn't they? Do you guys not get 'the talk' over there?

Having a sex ed session at the end of the primary school run was something I had always assumed to be standard practice. In which case you would definitely mention same sex relationships, and transitioning... Just a thing prudent to mention as something that exists, surely?

So something I don't think anyone could argue doesn't fit when at that point we are getting told about the birds and the bees, and something that country wide, is a recognised medical condition just getting a note as a thing. (I know I'd like to have known about it before I was 21, cheers school)

I realise comedic exaggeration is 'funny' and all, but that hardly seems like 'SJWs' taking over the institution.

Admittedly as a non standard school I think that does result in them getting taught about that a little earlier than elsewhere.

I've edited the opening post.

Let's face it. Whether we are modern third wave feminists or anti-feminists, most of us have one thing in common.
We are in favour of social inclusion. How we go about achieving said goal is a matter of debate and discussion.

Discussing any traditionally marginalised groups is relevant here.
Discussing any overlooked marginalised groups is relevant here.
Discussing any organisation that fights for social inclusion is relevant here.

Social constructs/gender roles are forced on us as natural whilst how babies actually work is taboo.

Damn those SJWs, they hate sex!