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Fire Demon Banned for Spam More chocolate please! I have made 2,563 posts Right now I'm Offline I joined August 2015 I've received 566 likes My gender is Male	The meeting of Kim Jong and Donald Trump Jun 11, 2018 3:39:04 GMT -6 Post by Fire Demon on Jun 11, 2018 3:39:04 GMT -6 So there's no way Trump will put his foot into his mouth and cause a diplomatic problem is there? I mean no twitter tantrums either after the meeting or am I being way too hopeful? I mean only a few hours to go really.
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Reznore Forum Regular I have made 183 posts Right now I'm Offline I joined January 2018 I've received 198 likes My gender is Female	The meeting of Kim Jong and Donald Trump Jun 11, 2018 9:17:39 GMT -6 Fire Demon likes this Post by Reznore on Jun 11, 2018 9:17:39 GMT -6 Perhaps Kim is an intelligent man who can understand Trump personal failings ? Perhaps they have much in common and will end up BFF . I'm pretty sure Trump will want to make Kim his bitch publicly, because well Trump... I guess it depends how much China understand there's no point in listening to whatever Trump is saying because he'll probably change his mind tomorrow. From what I've gathered, Kim has been running to China to have a cry about the bullying. And China and Putin might have some common interest. So again perhaps Papa Putin will rein Trump in. I don't know how we ended up like that on a geopolitical level, but what a time to be alive.
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Obadiah Banned for Spam Descarte's Discourse on Method, questioning reality, has an odd resonance when applied to internet. I have made 1,082 posts Right now I'm Offline I joined August 2015 I've received 647 likes My gender is Male	The meeting of Kim Jong and Donald Trump Jun 11, 2018 14:46:06 GMT -6 via mobile Post by Obadiah on Jun 11, 2018 14:46:06 GMT -6 It might be in Kim's interest to make Trump look good (continues to destabalize the Western alliance). I wonder to what lengths he'll go to make that happen?
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That Goat Magma Admin Princess Amazon Justisia I have made 3,590 posts Right now I'm Offline I joined August 2015 I've received 3,751 likes	The meeting of Kim Jong and Donald Trump Jun 11, 2018 18:03:34 GMT -6 Fire Demon, Puzzlewell, and 1 more like this Post by That Goat on Jun 11, 2018 18:03:34 GMT -6
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Fire Demon Banned for Spam More chocolate please! I have made 2,563 posts Right now I'm Offline I joined August 2015 I've received 566 likes My gender is Male	The meeting of Kim Jong and Donald Trump Jun 11, 2018 20:17:50 GMT -6 Post by Fire Demon on Jun 11, 2018 20:17:50 GMT -6 Jun 11, 2018 9:17:39 GMT -6 Reznore said: Perhaps Kim is an intelligent man who can understand Trump personal failings ? Perhaps they have much in common and will end up BFF . I'm pretty sure Trump will want to make Kim his bitch publicly, because well Trump... I guess it depends how much China understand there's no point in listening to whatever Trump is saying because he'll probably change his mind tomorrow. From what I've gathered, Kim has been running to China to have a cry about the bullying. And China and Putin might have some common interest. So again perhaps Papa Putin will rein Trump in. I don't know how we ended up like that on a geopolitical level, but what a time to be alive. How you ended up like this is that a portion of voters simply put got sucked in. FEAR is a fantastic motivator.
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Fire Demon Banned for Spam More chocolate please! I have made 2,563 posts Right now I'm Offline I joined August 2015 I've received 566 likes My gender is Male	The meeting of Kim Jong and Donald Trump Jun 11, 2018 20:41:04 GMT -6 Post by Fire Demon on Jun 11, 2018 20:41:04 GMT -6 Did anyone see this? Just found this video and just... Wow
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Reznore Forum Regular I have made 183 posts Right now I'm Offline I joined January 2018 I've received 198 likes My gender is Female	The meeting of Kim Jong and Donald Trump Jun 11, 2018 21:21:06 GMT -6 Post by Reznore on Jun 11, 2018 21:21:06 GMT -6 I'm reading there's now Dennis Rodman crying. I'll have to watch some video later. Some part of me, the chaotic troll who enjoys things getting weird, is having a ball.
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Deleted I have made 0 posts Right now I'm Offline I joined January 1970	The meeting of Kim Jong and Donald Trump Jun 11, 2018 21:24:12 GMT -6 Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2018 21:24:12 GMT -6 Some folks are genuinely spectating about Dennis Rodman's role in this talk as a mediator between the two world leaders and how much influence he could have over the meeting outcome. What a time to be alive. Policy is my interest, not personality (not more than its policy relevance). If Trump or any world leader whom I generally disagree with does anything that deserves credit, I'll give them credit. De-nuclearization is good. I sincerely hope against hope that Dear Leader can get something positive done, but with Trump, everything resides firmly in "I'll believe it when I see it ... and also subject it to a brief waiting-period just to be sure." It's like the Carrier thing. The initial news was a victory, on paper, but it also turned out to be a con. With Bolton, Pompeo, and hell even Pence over his shoulder, I have no real faith in this ending anywhere near what I would consider ideal. Also, after what happened with Libya, US credibility overseas is seriously shot. Kim Jong Un is evil, but is not said to be an idiot, which makes it unlikely that he will de-nuclearize in any truly significant capacity because that's the only reason anyone would do so in his shoes. We are the reason why other countries want nukes, and why quite frankly none of them can be blamed for it.
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Obadiah Banned for Spam Descarte's Discourse on Method, questioning reality, has an odd resonance when applied to internet. I have made 1,082 posts Right now I'm Offline I joined August 2015 I've received 647 likes My gender is Male	The meeting of Kim Jong and Donald Trump Jun 11, 2018 22:53:10 GMT -6 Post by Obadiah on Jun 11, 2018 22:53:10 GMT -6 Jun 11, 2018 21:21:06 GMT -6 Reznore said: I'm reading there's now Dennis Rodman crying. I'll have to watch some video later. Some part of me, the chaotic troll who enjoys things getting weird, is having a ball. I saw this on CNN while Chris Cuomo interviewed him, and he was describing the death threats he received for visiting North Korea, and I think supporting Donald Trump. It was seriously unreal.
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Fire Demon Banned for Spam More chocolate please! I have made 2,563 posts Right now I'm Offline I joined August 2015 I've received 566 likes My gender is Male	The meeting of Kim Jong and Donald Trump Jun 11, 2018 23:04:05 GMT -6 Post by Fire Demon on Jun 11, 2018 23:04:05 GMT -6 What a time to be alive when you have sports people doing diplomacy. We are definitely high into the surreal now.
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Deleted I have made 0 posts Right now I'm Offline I joined January 1970	The meeting of Kim Jong and Donald Trump Jun 12, 2018 16:09:28 GMT -6 Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2018 16:09:28 GMT -6 Just going to leave this here, It's really not unfair, an exaggeration or a caricature to say that conservative ideology is mostly just "What spites the libs?? Okay, that's my position." That and being cruel to minorities literally is the whole ideology for the vast majority of them. Yes, literally.
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Obadiah Banned for Spam Descarte's Discourse on Method, questioning reality, has an odd resonance when applied to internet. I have made 1,082 posts Right now I'm Offline I joined August 2015 I've received 647 likes My gender is Male	The meeting of Kim Jong and Donald Trump Jun 12, 2018 21:31:28 GMT -6 Reznore likes this Post by Obadiah on Jun 12, 2018 21:31:28 GMT -6 Witness the entire "comprehensive" document that Trump couldn't describe before signing. Hahahahahahaha… SPOILER: Click to show ...that laugh is not fake, it's REAL! www.politico.com/story/2018/06/12/full-text-trump-kim-korea-summit-637541 Joint Statement of President Donald J. Trump of the United States of America and Chairman Kim Jong Un of the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea at the Singapore Summit President Donald J. Trump of the United States of America and Chairman Kim Jong Un of the State Affairs Commission of the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea (DPRK) held a first, historic summit in Singapore on June 12, 2018. President Trump and Chairman Kim Jong Un conducted a comprehensive, in-depth, and sincere exchange of opinions on the issues related to the establishment of new U.S.-DPRK relations and the building of a lasting and robust peace regime on the Korean Peninsula. President Trump committed to provide security guarantees to the DPRK and Chairman Kim Jong Un reaffirmed his firm and unwavering commitment to complete denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula. Convinced that the establishment of new U.S.-DPRK relations will contribute to the peace and prosperity of the Korean Peninsula and of the world, and recognizing that mutual confidence building can promote the denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula, President Trump and Chairman Kim Jong Un state the following. 1. The United States and the DPRK commit to establish new U.S.-DPRK relations in accordance with the desire of the peoples of the two countries for peace and prosperity. 2. The United States and the DPRK will join their efforts to build a lasting and stable peace regime on the Korean Peninsula. 3. Reaffirming the April 27, 2018 Panmunjom Declaration, the DPRK commits to work toward complete denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula. 4. The United States and the DPRK commit to recovering POW/MIA remains, including the immediate repatriation of those already identified. Having acknowledged that the U.S-DPRK summit — the first in history — was an epochal event of great significance in overcoming decades of tensions and hostilities between the two countries and for the opening up of a new future, President Trump and Chairman Kim Jong Un commit to implement the stipulations in this joint statement fully and expeditiously. The United States and the DPRK commit to hold follow-on negotiations, led by the U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, and a relevant high-level DPRK official, at the earliest possible date, to implement the outcomes of the U.S.-DPRK summit. President Donald J. Trump of the United States and Chairman Kim Jong Un of the State Affairs Commission of the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea have committed to cooperate for the development of new U.S.-DPRK relations and for the promotion of peace, prosperity, and security of the Korean Peninsula and of the world. "Big things have small beginnings." - either T.E. Lawrence in Lawrence of Arabia, or David in Prometheus
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Reznore Forum Regular I have made 183 posts Right now I'm Offline I joined January 2018 I've received 198 likes My gender is Female	The meeting of Kim Jong and Donald Trump Jun 12, 2018 22:05:10 GMT -6 darthlopez likes this Post by Reznore on Jun 12, 2018 22:05:10 GMT -6 I want to do a happy dance. Because Trump bringing peace is hilarious. Sadly I'm pretty sure there is some China/Russia shenanigans somewhere. I don't have an issue against China or Russia, except they want to expand. China is looking at Africa and Russia eastern Europe. And as an european, I'm not sure about being sandwiched between a powerful China/ Russia coalition. It's not that European or US democracies are in the best shape right now, but it still beats China/Russia.
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Deleted I have made 0 posts Right now I'm Offline I joined January 1970	The meeting of Kim Jong and Donald Trump Jun 13, 2018 0:36:30 GMT -6 Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2018 0:36:30 GMT -6 "Complete denuclearization" <sic> -? O.O Kim is either lying or really is an idiot. 'Not my problem, though, and if true (big if), it's good for US interests.
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Fire Demon Banned for Spam More chocolate please! I have made 2,563 posts Right now I'm Offline I joined August 2015 I've received 566 likes My gender is Male	The meeting of Kim Jong and Donald Trump Jun 13, 2018 7:55:11 GMT -6 Post by Fire Demon on Jun 13, 2018 7:55:11 GMT -6 This thing still feels just so surreal. It's like some kind of freaky TV show.
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Ravensword Banned for Spam I have made 1,974 posts Right now I'm Offline I joined August 2015 I've received 1,211 likes My gender is Male	The meeting of Kim Jong and Donald Trump Jun 13, 2018 13:16:55 GMT -6 via mobile Post by Ravensword on Jun 13, 2018 13:16:55 GMT -6 There’s nothing in that document that lays out any sort of plan or enforcement method for this deal. Everyone came out of this feeling like a winner. Both Kim and Trump got the PR handjobs they were looking for. It’s entirely symbolic.
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Fire Demon Banned for Spam More chocolate please! I have made 2,563 posts Right now I'm Offline I joined August 2015 I've received 566 likes My gender is Male	The meeting of Kim Jong and Donald Trump Jun 13, 2018 20:59:21 GMT -6 Post by Fire Demon on Jun 13, 2018 20:59:21 GMT -6 Jun 13, 2018 13:16:55 GMT -6 Ravensword said: There’s nothing in that document that lays out any sort of plan or enforcement method for this deal. Everyone came out of this feeling like a winner. Both Kim and Trump got the PR handjobs they were looking for. It’s entirely symbolic. The fun thing is telling that to Trump supporters. They tend to lose their shit and get hysterical if you point this out.
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Ravensword Banned for Spam I have made 1,974 posts Right now I'm Offline I joined August 2015 I've received 1,211 likes My gender is Male	The meeting of Kim Jong and Donald Trump Jun 14, 2018 17:56:38 GMT -6 via mobile Post by Ravensword on Jun 14, 2018 17:56:38 GMT -6 Jun 13, 2018 20:59:21 GMT -6 Fire Demon said: Jun 13, 2018 13:16:55 GMT -6 Ravensword said: There’s nothing in that document that lays out any sort of plan or enforcement method for this deal. Everyone came out of this feeling like a winner. Both Kim and Trump got the PR handjobs they were looking for. It’s entirely symbolic. The fun thing is telling that to Trump supporters. They tend to lose their shit and get hysterical if you point this out. Trump supporters are the kind of people that care more about personality than policy. Although, the one policy they consistently care about is building a wall on the southern border—something that wouldn’t do anything to stop illegal immigration and apparently Trump supporters have never heard about boats, airplanes, shovels and ladders. That’s okay because the wall is just a symbolic feel-good measure for racist right-wing scum. All style, no substance; just like their beloved Führer. These people would be delighted to have Trump become president-for-life.
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