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Lorn Pillar of the Community What are you afraid of? I have made 678 posts Right now I'm Offline I joined August 2015 I've received 367 likes My gender is Male	Refugee crisis in Europe and the mess in Syria Sept 7, 2015 2:11:26 GMT -6 Post by Lorn on Sept 7, 2015 2:11:26 GMT -6 Europe should just build a wall to keep them out! Except that wouldn't work, but ya know...
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tobitobsen Forum Regular I have made 144 posts Right now I'm Offline I joined August 2015 I've received 116 likes My gender is Male	Refugee crisis in Europe and the mess in Syria Sept 7, 2015 5:29:46 GMT -6 Sentinel Arian and Master Warder Z like this Post by tobitobsen on Sept 7, 2015 5:29:46 GMT -6 I'm rather amused when I hear people bringing up the whole "But they are fleeing from a war zone! They just want to be safe!" stick. The second those people decided that they should leave their war torn country, didn't go to war free neighbor states and crossed 4-5 more war free european countries to get to northern Europe, they went from war refugees to economic migrants. SPOILER: Click to show I'm all for helping war refugees and countries that take them in, but economic migrants should be treated as such. Yet when you mention that anywhere you're the privileged white nazi scum that hopefully gets smitten by god. It's pretty interesting to see how fast so called "liberal and open minded people" forget their own "free speech and respect for everybody" principles.
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Sentinel Arian Banned for Spam I have made 4,063 posts Right now I'm Offline I joined August 2015 I've received 2,122 likes My gender is Male BSN Posts 17K+	Refugee crisis in Europe and the mess in Syria Sept 7, 2015 6:50:46 GMT -6 Post by Sentinel Arian on Sept 7, 2015 6:50:46 GMT -6 I wonder if the refugees would leave their countries if they knew that they may end up in Siberia, Nunavut or mid-west Australia as the only regions that jobs can be found!
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abraham Banned for Spam Hold The Door! I have made 1,141 posts Right now I'm Offline I joined August 2015 I've received 646 likes My gender is Male	Refugee crisis in Europe and the mess in Syria Sept 7, 2015 11:09:17 GMT -6 Post by abraham on Sept 7, 2015 11:09:17 GMT -6 Sept 7, 2015 6:50:46 GMT -6 Sentinel Arian said: I wonder if the refugees would leave their countries if they knew that they may end up in Siberia, Nunavut or mid-west Australia as the only regions that jobs can be found! Still trumps living in a war zone. So yes, they would. It's not a big surprise. You give someone choice (even a desperate person) they're going to go for the best options available. If you gave a homeless person a choice of: Okay House Okay House Okay House Okay House Okay House Nice House Nice House Do you really think they're going to go for any of the okay houses? "Yeah the nice houses are too good for me. I'll settle for one of the okay houses." So yes. Any country with benefits is going to seem like one of the "nice houses". I happen to like immigration. We need doctors, nurses, engineers, accountants, farmers, plumbers, builders etc. There is a lot of skilled labour that many people here just aren't qualified to take up. We need immigrants to keep our country going.
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abraham Banned for Spam Hold The Door! I have made 1,141 posts Right now I'm Offline I joined August 2015 I've received 646 likes My gender is Male	Refugee crisis in Europe and the mess in Syria Sept 7, 2015 11:14:12 GMT -6 Post by abraham on Sept 7, 2015 11:14:12 GMT -6 Sept 7, 2015 5:29:46 GMT -6 tobitobsen said: I'm rather amused when I hear people bringing up the whole "But they are fleeing from a war zone! They just want to be safe!" stick. The second those people decided that they should leave their war torn country, didn't go to war free neighbor states and crossed 4-5 more war free european countries to get to northern Europe, they went from war refugees to economic migrants. SPOILER: Click to show I'm all for helping war refugees and countries that take them in, but economic migrants should be treated as such. Yet when you mention that anywhere you're the privileged white nazi scum that hopefully gets smitten by god. It's pretty interesting to see how fast so called "liberal and open minded people" forget their own "free speech and respect for everybody" principles. Is the war in Ukrane over then? I thought it was still ongoing.
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tobitobsen Forum Regular I have made 144 posts Right now I'm Offline I joined August 2015 I've received 116 likes My gender is Male	Refugee crisis in Europe and the mess in Syria Sept 7, 2015 11:19:02 GMT -6 Master Warder Z likes this Post by tobitobsen on Sept 7, 2015 11:19:02 GMT -6 Sept 7, 2015 11:14:12 GMT -6 abraham said: Sept 7, 2015 5:29:46 GMT -6 tobitobsen said: I'm rather amused when I hear people bringing up the whole "But they are fleeing from a war zone! They just want to be safe!" stick. The second those people decided that they should leave their war torn country, didn't go to war free neighbor states and crossed 4-5 more war free european countries to get to northern Europe, they went from war refugees to economic migrants. SPOILER: Click to show I'm all for helping war refugees and countries that take them in, but economic migrants should be treated as such. Yet when you mention that anywhere you're the privileged white nazi scum that hopefully gets smitten by god. It's pretty interesting to see how fast so called "liberal and open minded people" forget their own "free speech and respect for everybody" principles. Is the war in Ukrane over then? I thought it was still ongoing. He, good point. Didn't noticed that fact that the op of the pic actually put "No War" on the Ukraine. Dude probably forgot that, just like the media.
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Althix Forum Regular I have made 197 posts Right now I'm Offline I joined August 2015 I've received 66 likes My gender is Male	Refugee crisis in Europe and the mess in Syria Sept 7, 2015 13:20:39 GMT -6 Post by Althix on Sept 7, 2015 13:20:39 GMT -6 well... USA loves their cheap workers, immigrants. why don't they just pick them all up and bring them to the land of freedom? as for gathering crops: you need to accommodate your workers, you have pay their taxes, you have to pay them for job done. and what is more important you have to sell these crops to gain profit. so these people... are dead weight now. i am paying taxes. 33% of my income. i want it to be used on police, health care, roads etc. i don't want it to be used on some guy from Syria.
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Sentinel Arian Banned for Spam I have made 4,063 posts Right now I'm Offline I joined August 2015 I've received 2,122 likes My gender is Male BSN Posts 17K+	Refugee crisis in Europe and the mess in Syria Sept 7, 2015 16:12:28 GMT -6 Post by Sentinel Arian on Sept 7, 2015 16:12:28 GMT -6 Sept 7, 2015 11:09:17 GMT -6 abraham said: Sept 7, 2015 6:50:46 GMT -6 Sentinel Arian said: I wonder if the refugees would leave their countries if they knew that they may end up in Siberia, Nunavut or mid-west Australia as the only regions that jobs can be found! Still trumps living in a war zone. So yes, they would. It's not a big surprise. You give someone choice (even a desperate person) they're going to go for the best options available. If you gave a homeless person a choice of: Okay House Okay House Okay House Okay House Okay House Nice House Nice House Do you really think they're going to go for any of the okay houses? "Yeah the nice houses are too good for me. I'll settle for one of the okay houses." So yes. Any country with benefits is going to seem like one of the "nice houses". I happen to like immigration. We need doctors, nurses, engineers, accountants, farmers, plumbers, builders etc. There is a lot of skilled labour that many people here just aren't qualified to take up. We need immigrants to keep our country going. Yeah... a nice house is always good even if your job is inferior than your skills. Having a good job, but a mediocre house is what sucks!
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Deleted I have made 0 posts Right now I'm Offline I joined January 1970	Refugee crisis in Europe and the mess in Syria Sept 7, 2015 16:39:00 GMT -6 Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2015 16:39:00 GMT -6 Here is a man speaking without concern for political correctness. Whether you agree with him or not, you have to admit that this level of openness and directness when answering questions and addressing an audience is a refreshing change.
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Deleted I have made 0 posts Right now I'm Offline I joined January 1970	Refugee crisis in Europe and the mess in Syria Sept 7, 2015 17:47:45 GMT -6 Ness, Babar Guy, and 3 more like this Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2015 17:47:45 GMT -6 Not really. Just cuz someone's honest about their shitty views doesn't mean I need to respect them simply for being honest. That's the thing about 'political correctness' some people just don't get. They think everyone has the same shitty views they do and the people who don't admit it are just being 'politically correct.' No, you're being politically correct if you have those views but you're too afraid to say them. And that is pointless. Whereas I'm not interested in the European identity/ Muslim invasion fearmongering because I genuinely think it's bullshit.
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Deleted I have made 0 posts Right now I'm Offline I joined January 1970	Refugee crisis in Europe and the mess in Syria Sept 7, 2015 18:02:42 GMT -6 That Goat likes this Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2015 18:02:42 GMT -6 Well I do appreciate that he's telling us he's going to do shitty things rather than springing it on us after it's too late. Yeah... I have low standards thanks to our recent governments...
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Lorn Pillar of the Community What are you afraid of? I have made 678 posts Right now I'm Offline I joined August 2015 I've received 367 likes My gender is Male	Refugee crisis in Europe and the mess in Syria Sept 7, 2015 18:27:15 GMT -6 That Goat, The Hawkeye God, and 1 more like this Post by Lorn on Sept 7, 2015 18:27:15 GMT -6 Sept 7, 2015 16:39:00 GMT -6 @riven326 said: Here is a man speaking without concern for political correctness. Whether you agree with him or not, you have to admit that this level of openness and directness when answering questions and addressing an audience is a refreshing change. No, here is a man spreading pointless fear mongering.
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Deleted I have made 0 posts Right now I'm Offline I joined January 1970	Refugee crisis in Europe and the mess in Syria Sept 7, 2015 20:06:28 GMT -6 Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2015 20:06:28 GMT -6 Sept 7, 2015 18:27:15 GMT -6 Lorn said: Sept 7, 2015 16:39:00 GMT -6 @riven326 said: Here is a man speaking without concern for political correctness. Whether you agree with him or not, you have to admit that this level of openness and directness when answering questions and addressing an audience is a refreshing change. No, here is a man spreading pointless fear mongering. Even if he held a different position on the matter I would still encourage his honesty and directness in answering questions. How often do politicians answer questions like that? They either dodge the question entirely, change the subject, and or talk in double speak.
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Deleted I have made 0 posts Right now I'm Offline I joined January 1970	Refugee crisis in Europe and the mess in Syria Sept 8, 2015 0:09:01 GMT -6 via mobile Sentinel Arian and Althix like this Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2015 0:09:01 GMT -6 Sept 7, 2015 11:09:17 GMT -6 abraham said: Sept 7, 2015 6:50:46 GMT -6 Sentinel Arian said: I wonder if the refugees would leave their countries if they knew that they may end up in Siberia, Nunavut or mid-west Australia as the only regions that jobs can be found! Still trumps living in a war zone. So yes, they would. It's not a big surprise. You give someone choice (even a desperate person) they're going to go for the best options available. If you gave a homeless person a choice of: Okay House Okay House Okay House Okay House Okay House Nice House Nice House Do you really think they're going to go for any of the okay houses? "Yeah the nice houses are too good for me. I'll settle for one of the okay houses." So yes. Any country with benefits is going to seem like one of the "nice houses". I happen to like immigration. We need doctors, nurses, engineers, accountants, farmers, plumbers, builders etc. There is a lot of skilled labour that many people here just aren't qualified to take up. We need immigrants to keep our country going. Whaaasaat? You can't be that naive, how many of those people coming do you think are any of the above? Very few, there is a skills shortage but the influx of migrants has provided a boost of cheap unskilled labour, not skilled immigration. What you're getting is not skilled labour feeding into the economy to plug the gaps, it's mass immigration on a manual labour level. Which we get enough of from the eastern EU states. The inevitable result is a depression of wages at a lower level, which must then be augmented using everyone else's taxes because the social structure and services of the country can't support such an influx of cheap labour without additional funding. And guess who gets stuck with the bill. This is economic migration, not a refugee crisis predominately, Germany's move to accept so many is based primarily on its declining population, it needs migration to prop up its working population. The UK doesn't. What we should have done is sift the wheat from the chaff, take the ones we need or have job offers from businesses here and leave the rest.
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Althix Forum Regular I have made 197 posts Right now I'm Offline I joined August 2015 I've received 66 likes My gender is Male	Refugee crisis in Europe and the mess in Syria Sept 8, 2015 1:09:47 GMT -6 Post by Althix on Sept 8, 2015 1:09:47 GMT -6 ^ it's mass immigration on a manual labour level. case and point.
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Sentinel Arian Banned for Spam I have made 4,063 posts Right now I'm Offline I joined August 2015 I've received 2,122 likes My gender is Male BSN Posts 17K+	Refugee crisis in Europe and the mess in Syria Sept 13, 2015 6:05:32 GMT -6 Post by Sentinel Arian on Sept 13, 2015 6:05:32 GMT -6 I'll LOL hard 30 years from now, when I see your Western European countries has turn into Middle East 2... All because having children was too difficult for you and you had to import immigrants in order to keep your industry.
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Althix Forum Regular I have made 197 posts Right now I'm Offline I joined August 2015 I've received 66 likes My gender is Male	Refugee crisis in Europe and the mess in Syria Sept 14, 2015 3:59:41 GMT -6 Post by Althix on Sept 14, 2015 3:59:41 GMT -6 .... mhm... you know when i moved to Finland for study and citizenship i actually learned that it's very bad to be a white men in europe. However all these refugees may also serve as mass of human force without any rights or voice. Which may be useful for some people in power. We shall see. However 2 days ago there was a demonstation in Poland against 'muslims' refugees (i want to stress that) and social inequality. Demonstrators were concerned about the fact that Germany is forcing Poland to accept 12k refugees instead of 2k. Also concerns were raised about accomondations of these refugess and health care for them. Arguments against are: many young polish families waiting for proper housing up to 2-3 years, when refugess may and most likely will have it in a very short time. And some other... sometimes strange but whatever. like ^ that. p.s. Emmm... the way how speaker guy control the crowd is rather... silly. Stressing that in 1939 Germans were killing Polish youth, or how England and France betrayed Poland twice. Well it will set the crowd on certain tune neeed for this speaker, but i find his arguments contentious at best. But this is a crowd we looking at so yeah... p.p.s. Tomasz Maciejczuk is the guy that have some insights about situation in Poland, about refugess from Syria and Ukraine as well.
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Deleted I have made 0 posts Right now I'm Offline I joined January 1970	Refugee crisis in Europe and the mess in Syria Sept 14, 2015 6:22:29 GMT -6 Sentinel Arian, Althix, and 2 more like this Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2015 6:22:29 GMT -6 Sept 13, 2015 6:05:32 GMT -6 Sentinel Arian said: I'll LOL hard 30 years from now, when I see your Western European countries has turn into Middle East 2... All because having children was too difficult for you and you had to import immigrants in order to keep your industry. Europa could always use a new class of untermensch, non citizens used to labor for the betterment of the nation states, Germany did it in the 1970's, the Roman Empire itself had the concept of citizenship, where those without held no say within the state. Unfortunately the weakness which now grips the political class of Europe will never countenance that citizenship should be earned and not given to migrants from outside the EU. So we see the degradation of Europe's culture and social structure buckling under the strain of such a high rate of immigration, but to say such a thing would be unconscionable for politicians, even if it's pragmatic and the only real practical solution to the inherent crisis where EU states are coerced or though their leader's own blind naivete continue to accept mass immigration to the detriment of the nation state.
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Colaman172 Pillar of the Community ムリダナ I have made 601 posts Right now I'm Offline I joined August 2015 I've received 388 likes My gender is Male BSN Posts 731	Refugee crisis in Europe and the mess in Syria Sept 14, 2015 12:33:21 GMT -6 Post by Colaman172 on Sept 14, 2015 12:33:21 GMT -6 A little over exaggerated, but I found it entertaining. Though I think the uploader might be a tad bit racist...
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