I'm sure one could point to a lot of things that happened as a direct result of western interference in Afghanistan and Iraq.

However it's worth noting that the Middle East has been in some kind of a conflict for a very long time now, and I have little doubt that it would still be even without the interference of the west. Just not in the exact identical way that they are today.

Refugees and illegal immigrants? Hmm... I can recruit them saying go conquer a city or two for me. Then I may grant them some buildings. Good luck though, may you survive the ordeal!

Spineless idiots would fight for their country, city and family if they were worthy. They make it even harder for smart and talented legal immigrants.

Well, that's the thing isn't it --- many people, mostly liberals, accuse someone of racism every time they speak out against immigration or mass immigration. They do the same thing when someone criticizes Islam; they even invented a word for it: Islamophobia. In their minds if you criticize Islam, you clearly have an irrational fear of the religion and therefore your arguments are nullified or entirely void of merit. On the show Real Time, Ben Affleck accused Bill Maher and Sam Harris of being racists just for criticizing the ideas of Islam, and for saying that even the so called moderates of the religion hold extreme views that western people would find reprehensible. Instead of offering a counter argument, Affleck just accuses both men of racism. People like Affleck have been indoctrinated into believing that Islam and the people who practice it are one in the same; they are incapable of separating the religion from the people who practice it. And it is only with Islam that they do this; they most certainly would not accuse someone of being a racist just for criticizing the ideas of Christianity, Hinduism, Judaism, Buddhism, Catholicism, etc.

These words (racism, Islamophobia, bigot, offensive, etc.) have a purpose, and that is to shut down opposing views by stifling free speech. Now, when it comes to immigration I believe that normal levels of immigration for a country, that is to say, levels that are conservative and have been shown to prove that the country can continue to sustain itself and thrive within those levels, is not necessarily a bad thing as long as the immigrants arrive legally and integrate appropriately within the host country. However, mass immigration has proven to be very detrimental to a country and it's native denizens by causing severe economic, social, political, and religious strain. It ultimately causes division among the peoples of a country and then you eventually end up with something like Great Britain where, you have exclusive Islamic communities springing up and those people attempting to impose their own religious laws (Sharia) on the native citizens. Meanwhile, the government remains passive, lest they be accused of racism or Islamophobia.

Lol @ 'actual liberals'

You are a liberal if you call yourself liberal, and Affleck would almost certainly call himself liberal. 

No. You can identify with something and not fit the mold for it. Progressives and SJWs are the far left's answer to the far right.

And they have MUCH more in common with the extremists on the other side than they do anyone else on their own.

Because they're horseshoe theory as fuck about it.

Agreed 100%. The horseshoe theory is absolutely real and we're starting to see it play out in the real world more and more because people have allowed the Tumblr/SomethingAwful strain of hard left progressive feminism to fester without challenge. It's to the point where playing Stormfront or SJW genuinely works.

On actions, sure. Give it some time though. When it comes to rhetoric at least, they're disturbingly similar. Just replace terms like white or male with Jew and diversity with purity. Many SJW rantings read like Neo-Nazi rantings when you change the words around a little.

Anyways, I'll stop posting since I'm going offtopic. But the political horseshoe is most certainly real.

You better hope their majority is Shia or Kurds and not Sunni. Otherwise, soon or in the next generation the majority of Syrian refugees in your county will have high potential to form/join the next thing after ISIS.

Fair enough.